Janoel 48 egg incubator

[Che Guebuddha]

Hi all, I just received my very first egg incubator Janoel 48. As the name sais it is for 48 eggs but I dont think my 7 hens will lay so many eggs in just 7-10 days so I will very likely place only 12 eggs or so.

At the moment I have collected 8 eggs which are kept inside my stable. I keep turning them around a few times a day.

I keep Danish Landrace both black and brown.

The incubator came without the Styrofoam box which didn't make me happy since some say on youtube that its important to keep the incubator inside the styrofoam box to help keeping even temperature.

I am testing the incubator today to see if the temperature and humidity is steady and if the egg tray is turning every 2 hours. So far all looks fine.

Since some on youtube say the thermometer has to be calibrated I used our digital stake thermometer to double check the temperature. The stake one shows 39'C and the incubator is on 37,6'C  How do I know which one is right?

This incubator is the newest version of Janoel 48 which means they have fixed some of the past issues but still Im not sure. Do I have to buy another thermometer to triple check?

Instruction book sais to keep the humidity at 60% until the day 18 and from then on on 65%. Is this ok?

Any and all help and tips MUCH appreciated

[Che Guebuddha]

Here is the pic;

[Che Guebuddha]

I went ahead and bought a new indoors/outdoors digital thermometer and this one is showing the same temp inside the incubator as the incubator's thermometer which is GREAT 

Now with this new thermometer I can even see the room temperature which help a lot. The manufacturer states that when he/she fills water into the water channels the humidity stays at 60% and that is what I've done and I've got 60% humidity also so I guess I can trust this new incubator of mine So happy!

Since I can only collect max 12-14 eggs from my Dansk Landrace Hens I will try and get some White Sussex eggs from one of my neighbors, so to fill up the incubator space.

If you have any suggestions please don't be shy
Thank you all

[anneke]

Jeg har lige købt den samme maskine og jeg synes at den er meget stabilt. Om nogle dage klækker de første kyllinger. Jeg ruger ikke med 60 % fugt men med 30%- 40% i de første 18 dage. Kun når de klækker skal de op på 65 %

[Che Guebuddha]

Hi Annete and thanks for the reply. I wonder how to best get 30-40% humidity?

After testing this incubator I too see it is very stable. The temperature is constant on 37,5'C and humidity on 55-60%
I have filled both water ways with water. I wonder if the humidity will be lower if I only fill only one? I will try now and see what it sais.

By the way, some say it should be 60% for the first 18 days and 65-70% humidity for the last few days? What humidity works best for Denmark in summer?

[anneke]

Ja det bliver mindre fugtigt når du kun fylder vand i den ene vandbeholder. Hvor meget er lidt afhængig af luftfugtigheden udenfor. og jeg tror ikke at det er så vigtig om det nu bliver 30 eller 40 %. Jeg har nogle gange haft høns der rugede på høloft og de kunne også ruge alle æg ud. Hvor meget fugt er der på en høloft?
Du skriver om at du ikke kan samle så mange æg. Man siger altid at et rugeæg ikke må være ældre end 10 dage, men det er fordi der ikke kommer så mange kyllinger ud af æg som er lidt ældre. Men nu har du så meget plads i maskinen at du sagtens kan prøve at lægge nogle af de lidt ældre æg i også. Når en høne samler æg til en rede holder hun heller ikke op når hun har 10 æg, men samler tit 18-20 stk. inden hun ruger. De fleste kommer ud alligevel selv om de ældste æg må være 20 dage gammel.

[Che Guebuddha]

I have started with incubation today 14 eggs from the last 10 days. As I already reported I only filled the one water channel and still the humidity is not going under 49%. With both water channels filled it is approx 60%. How do you lower the humidity so much? The temp is steady at 37,5'C.


view through the observation window

How do you fill up with water and how often? I guess the only way is to open the incubator but this way the parameters will change. Is this a problem?

[anneke]

Jeg har slet ikke haft vand i maskinen indtil dag 18. Men de sidste uger har luftfugtigheden udenfor også været høj. Det gør ikke noget at du har lidt højere fugtighed, det må bare ikke overstige 60%.
Nu har jeg begge bakker fyldt og en kylling er klækket og flere har lavet hul. Jeg kan så heller ikke svare på spørgsmålet om hvor ofte man skal fylde på men jeg tror ikke at man kan gøre det uden at åbne maskinen. Jeg har ikke helt den samme maskine som dig, min har klar plastik i bund så jeg kan se meget mere af hvad der foregår. Det er jeg, og min børnebørn, meget glad for selv om den koster lidt mere.

[Che Guebuddha]

I didnt know one can do it without water. Should I try without? In that case I dont have to open the incubator much. Is there anyone else on this forum incubating without water?

[Patricia]

bruger heller ikke vand

[hanemikkel]

De første ca. 18 dage kan man sagtens åbne maskinen længe nok til at fylde vand på. Der sker ikke noget ved at temperaturen falder lidt i et minut eller to. Skrukhøner er jo også oppe og spise hver dag.

Jeg har samme maskine, og du skal i hvert fald ikke følge vejledningen med at have så høj luftfugtighed.

Så vil mange kyllinger ikke komme ud af ægget til sidst.

Men om du skal køre med lidt eller helt uden vand de første dage, kan jeg desværre ikke svare på.

[Che Guebuddha]

Thank you for your kind replies

I tried for an hour to do it without water but the humidity kept falling under 30% so I filled only one channel with water and the humidity is holding around 38-49%

It has been 7 days since I started incubating these 14 eggs and today I candled the eggs. 8 eggs are fertilised and are growing well and 6 eggs are not fertilized at all so I removed them. Out of the 8 fertile eggs all are alive. I can tell that because there are many veins visible like a net. I cold not see any blood ring which would mean a "quitter" (?)

Fertizied and developing eggs have blood veins in form of a net;



Not fertilized egg is totally see through without any blood veins;

[Che Guebuddha]

Today has been 22 days since the incubation start. Still no hatchlings I have raised the humidity to 70% since the day 18 and the eggs are placed on the bottom trey on their sides. I didnt open the incubator since. Last time I checked was 15 days and one of the eggs was a quitter. So I have 7 eggs which were alive.

The temperature on the incubator is showing constant 37,5'C and on the extra thermometer it came up to 37,9-38,1C'. This incubator has a fan ventilator.

Why aren't they hatching?

[Glatnak]

Regarding collecting eggs for the incubator

If you store the eggs at aprx. 12-15 degree celcius, you can collect eggs for over 2 weeks.

Just remember to turn the eggs 2-3 times a Day (morning/evening), and don't store them in a too dry enviroment

I use a cheap 12V car thermobox with an external temp controller.
When the temp. reaches 15 degree, the thermobox is turned on to cool, and powered off when 14,5 degree
There is some condensation - But i prevent the water drops to drip on the eggs

This year i have been collecting eggs for up 17 days, and 100% hatching of all eggs

[jni]

Today has been 22 days since the incubation start. Still no hatchlings I have raised the humidity to 70% since the day 18 and the eggs are placed on the bottom trey on their sides. I didnt open the incubator since. Last time I checked was 15 days and one of the eggs was a quitter. So I have 7 eggs which were alive.

The temperature on the incubator is showing constant 37,5'C and on the extra thermometer it came up to 37,9-38,1C'. This incubator has a fan ventilator.

Why aren't they hatching?

I read that the humidyty chould be 45% the first 18 days, and 60% the last 3 days. If it is higher, the chicken can not come out of the egg